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  • Have you watched the DTV Scooby-Doo! and the Curse of the 13th Ghost?

    Share your thoughts below...

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    • I haven't seen it yet, but I pre-ordered the DVD so I'll be seeing it tonight!

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    • The ending was rather old and kinda ruined the moment since it was mostly a wild goose chase. Also, Fred a cheerleader? What were they even thinking? The time this took place after the show is rather stupid and makes no sense at all. And if the show took place before On Zombie Island than Velma wouldn't have been skeptical still. Although Scrappy may not have been in the opening, it could've been worse, and I know deep down he's still on good terms with the original gang and that's good enough for me. And to be honest, I'm not sure I have it in me to do the synopsis, or even if I want to keep my copy. I was really exicted when I first heard about this, but now, I'm not sure it was worth it.

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    • Thoughts:

      This is bad news for our heroes! They've been solving mysteries for what seems like forever and now, they get in trouble for it? Orange or stripes. Either definitely makes Daphne look fat.

      Speaking of Daphne, check out her new appearance. She looks absolutely marvelous.

      Ah, yes. The return of Vincent Van Ghoul. If anyone could do Vincent Price proud in voicing him, it's the Brain if you catch the nod.

      Well, one thing's for sure. It was neither Terry McGinnis or Amadeus Cho that voiced teen Flim Flam. Whoever it really is deserves an A for effort.

      Judging by his appearance, the Chest of Demons is like a mix of Demona from Gargoyles and Chernabog from Fantasia.

      Vincent sacrificed himself to save the gang. Truly an evolved soul.

      Don't know whether to feel nervous or tickled pink by Velma's reaction after her encounter with a real ghost.

      That aside, poor Daphne's ready to throw in the towel along with, Scoob, Shag, and Vel but Fred's havin' none of that!

      That plane our heroes drove kinda reminds me of the bat-plane.

      This whole 'Chest of Demons" plot started because of Van Ghoul's corrupted ancestor? A story of fear and tragedy if I ever saw one.

      Cool! A vacuum gun!

      Not only was that ex-magician the demon all along but he had to be the same culprit that slipped through the gang's fingers.

      A guy who's both a figure skater and an agent. Can you imagine?

      Epic fail on the magician's escape.

      Well, Velma's back to being the oh so skeptical member of the bunch.

      It was also fun to see Daphne lead for a while.

      Though I'm not a fan of 13 Ghosts, this flick was a great way to pick up where the series left off. Seeing grown up Flim-Flam was the icing on the cake.

      Hope the next movie has something to do with the big 5-0 this fall.

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote:
      The ending was rather old and kinda ruined the moment. Also, Fred a cheerleader? What were they even thinking? The time this took place after the show is rather stupid and makes no sense at all. Although Scrappy may not have been in the opening, it could've been worse, and I know deep down he's still on good terms with the original gang and that's good enough for me. And to be honest, I'm not sure I have it in me to do the synopsis, or even if I want to keep my copy. I was really exicted when I first heard about this, but now, I'm not sure it was worth it.

      The ending was a dropped ball! There is loads of questions that they need to anwser and adress, but didn't.

      One of which was brough up by Flim-Flam: Where's Scrappy? Going by the opening montage and the fact that Gang seem sincerly confused by the mentioned of "Scrappy". It is pretty safe to say: He just didn't exist. In fact, a bit fo stretch, but Velma's explantion of the real ghost being hallucations brought on by the thin mountain air could be for Scrappy too: he was just an figment of everyone's imgation...

      Speaking of the real ghosts: Kinda missed the chance to have the gang deal with the real thing... again. For real again like all the times they actually did... Sure, they tightrope between the Ghosts are real to being fake... but it kinda went nowhere...

      And another thing: I am sure I am not the only one who noticed: But Fred asking himself about his postion on the team when Daphne took lead, and then becoming a cheerleader... that was something SCRAPPY would have done. He would question his postion as part of the gang since he had nothing of his own to contribute (or so say his critics) and he would also cheer up the group because he thinks so highly of them and admire them so much.... but instead, we got Fred going through all of that. Heck; by the size of those pompoms, they look like they were MADE for Scrappy!

      Still.. at least Vincent and Flim-Flam got their send offs... even though Scrappy got nothing in this whole thing!

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    • If you wanna tell the developers that, go ahead, I'm gonna stick with my theories.

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    • Movies like this have had their share of flaws but why should they dissuade any of you from enjoying this one?

      Sure, Velma started being in ghosts after that encounter with the demon but then went back to being skeptical but she's still the same bright gal we all know and trust.

      Though Fred came off as a nuisance, I think we should be glad he's nowhere near the same level as Mandy and Angelica put together.

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    • SonicFan wrote:
      Movies like this have had their share of flaws but why should they dissuade any of you from enjoying this one?

      Sure, Velma started being in ghosts after that encounter with the demon but then went back to being skeptical but she's still the same bright gal we all know and trust.

      Though Fred came off as a nuisance, I think we should be glad he's nowhere near the same level as Mandy and Angelica put together.

      You can believe what you want, but I'm sticking to what I believe.

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    • Vincent acted suspicious on the plane ride to the Himalayas, not sure why.

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote: The ending was rather old and kinda ruined the moment since it was mostly a wild goose chase. Also, Fred a cheerleader? What were they even thinking? The time this took place after the show is rather stupid and makes no sense at all. And if the show took place before On Zombie Island than Velma wouldn't have been skeptical still. Although Scrappy may not have been in the opening, it could've been worse, and I know deep down he's still on good terms with the original gang and that's good enough for me. And to be honest, I'm not sure I have it in me to do the synopsis, or even if I want to keep my copy. I was really exicted when I first heard about this, but now, I'm not sure it was worth it.

      Yeah, I was pumped to make edits. Now not so much.

      Even though Scrappy might be on good terms, Velma didn't have a clue who Flim-Flam was talking about (maybe he should've clarified), so I'm not sure there's anything to comment on there. They can't be on good terms with someone they hadn't heard of. And since Flim-Flam only comes from one series, his claim of a "Scrappy" might not come across as entirely valid.

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    • Guys i'm confused if there isn't the 13 ghost why the real chest of demons still here at the end. Maybe the 13 ghost will appear again and Boogel and Weerd will also appear in the sequel..

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:

      Yellowlightning1996 wrote: The ending was rather old and kinda ruined the moment since it was mostly a wild goose chase. Also, Fred a cheerleader? What were they even thinking? The time this took place after the show is rather stupid and makes no sense at all. And if the show took place before On Zombie Island than Velma wouldn't have been skeptical still. Although Scrappy may not have been in the opening, it could've been worse, and I know deep down he's still on good terms with the original gang and that's good enough for me. And to be honest, I'm not sure I have it in me to do the synopsis, or even if I want to keep my copy. I was really exicted when I first heard about this, but now, I'm not sure it was worth it.

      Yeah, I was pumped to make edits. Now not so much.

      Even though Scrappy might be on good terms, Velma didn't have a clue who Flim-Flam was talking about (maybe he should've clarified), so I'm not sure there's anything to comment on there. They can't be on good terms with someone they hadn't heard of. And since Flim-Flam only comes from one series, his claim of a "Scrappy" might not come across as entirely valid.

      I choose to ignore that part of the movie. (sigh) And that's because the people who made this movie did that so I don't believe Velma doesn't know him, they lied. In fact, they made a lot of mistakes that this movie seems like a lie. And not just this, they lied about some things in Frankencreepy.

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    • I found Scooby-Doo! Frankencreepy to be a very bad movie, almost, but not quite as bad as this. What I found to be half the problem with the former is that it was historically unsound, while this film was in-universe historically unsound.

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    • Even so they shouldn't lie about the mistakes!

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    • Littlecharmersfan wrote: Guys i'm confused if there isn't the 13 ghost why the real chest of demons still here at the end. Maybe the 13 ghost will appear again and Boogel and Weerd will also appear in the sequel..

      I got the impression that the real Asmodeus just evaporated. It was more about retribution for what he did. Or something. That's how much of an abomination the ending was.

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote: Even so they shouldn't lie about the mistakes!

      Well, they were lying about the truth, not lying about a mistake. I've tried to probe Tim Sheridan with some questions, which he told us he would answer months ago, and maybe he's giving some breathing room for today, but if he doesn't confess to the mistake, then it's lying. All they've done is falsify the truth within the canon.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:

      Littlecharmersfan wrote: Guys i'm confused if there isn't the 13 ghost why the real chest of demons still here at the end. Maybe the 13 ghost will appear again and Boogel and Weerd will also appear in the sequel..

      I got the impression that the real Asmodeus just evaporated. It was more about retribution for what he did. Or something. That's how much of an abomination the ending was.

      To those who bought the movie and end up not liking it, let this be a lesson, be careful on what you buy or you may regret it.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:

      Yellowlightning1996 wrote: Even so they shouldn't lie about the mistakes!

      Well, they were lying about the truth, not lying about a mistake. I've tried to probe Tim Sheridan with some questions, which he told us he would, maybe he's giving some breathing room, but if he doesn't confess to the mistake, then it's lying. All they've done is falsify the truth within the canon.

      Exactly! And they need to stop that. The sooner they realize it, the better.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:

      Yellowlightning1996 wrote: Even so they shouldn't lie about the mistakes!

      Well, they were lying about the truth, not lying about a mistake. I've tried to probe Tim Sheridan with some questions, which he told us he would answer months ago, and maybe he's giving some breathing room for today, but if he doesn't confess to the mistake, then it's lying. All they've done is falsify the truth within the canon.

      "Lying"? Come on guys. There's never been a Scooby canon and there never will be. You can't villify someone for ignoring a canon that never existed to begin with. I was hoping to interview Tim Sheridan about the movie but James beyond hostile to him on Twitter will probably assure he never wants to talk to us ever. 

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    • "Beyond hostile"? I deny I was beyond hostile to him. I hope in some ways he could take that as a joke. But he obviously must realise that people are going to have their views. He wrote a Superman film for crying out loud.

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    • I don't want to stamp it down with a canon mistake. It's just "What's a Scrappy?" That was a liberal and unnecessary mistake.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:
      I don't want to stamp it down with a canon mistake. It's just "What's a Scrappy?" That was a liberal and unnecessary mistake.

      A VERY BIG LIE is what I'd prefer.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:
      "Beyond hostile"? I deny I was beyond hostile to him. I hope in some ways he could take that as a joke. But he obviously must realise that people are going to have their views. He wrote a Superman film for crying out loud.

      I meant to type "being hostile" and autocorrect changed it

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    • Look, I just think we should refrain from calling writers "liars" for fudging up continuity or acting like it's a huge betrayal if we don't like a movie. At the end of the day, we're not the target audience for Scooby-Doo. These movies are written for children. We can still criticize decisions we don't like and express disapointment that something didn't live up to expectations. But please, let's keep things in perspective. I don't want to see the Scooby Fandom become like Steven Universe or My Little Pony and be sendng death threats to creators. 

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    • Even if they do send "death threats", it won't do any good. And younger audiences won't likely completely understand what our point is. Though I suppose I was just rambling on the second part.

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    • But... SCRAPPY JUSTICE...!

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    • Penguino! wrote:
      But... SCRAPPY JUSTICE...!

      I wouldn't put it that way, but yes.

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    • poor scrappy

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    • It would have been more idealist if it turns out Scrappy was on the case to catch Mortifer. Like he has became a trained police dog, and since he knew about the Chest of Demons and the Gang's connection to Mr. VanGhoul, setting up that sting oepration would have been his big plan... you know, instead of having it be some random officer guy who wore a mask for no reason and was there for ice skating...

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    • No one should be sending any death threats. I've seen people getting very, very outraged over this in certain circles, and it's really not that extreme. It was just a bad entry in the DTV series, we voice our complaints and concerns (in a polite way) on social media to the crew (the cast only show up and perform, they are not at fault) and move on to the next movie.

      But dear god, the backlash they'll get if they mess up Return to Zombie Island is going to be unreal.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      No one should be sending any death threats. I've seen people getting very, very outraged over this in certain circles, and it's really not that extreme. It was just a bad entry in the DTV series, we voice our complaints and concerns (in a polite way) on social media to the crew (the cast only show up and perform, they are not at fault) and move on to the next movie.

      But dear god, the backlash they'll get if they mess up Return to Zombie Island is going to be unreal.

      If someone actually does give them a backlash, which I doubt will make this better. And they'd have to be crazy to keep Velma skeptical should this movie be released.

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    • I actually loved most of this movie but the last 9 minutes ruined everything for me. They tried to squeeze in too much stuff. I think it would've been better if the monster was real...

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    • Okay here are all my thoughts:

      No character has ever died in a DTV! There's no way anybody is going to believe that his assistant was killed so it's made obvious from the start that he'll be the bad guy!

      The opening credits were awesome and I loved all the references.

      They agree to give up mystery's so quickly... It doesn't feel realistic for the Gang to do...

      I loved the quick reference to Daphne's "13 Ghosts" hairstyle.

      I really liked how Daphne was a stronger character in this. I like how they didn't make a big deal about her usually being a "damsel in distress" and just made her strong w/out question.

      Shaggy calling Velma "sister?!" Um...

      Ok, I love how they animated the characters mouths in this. It was kinda like anime characters when they freak out and it worked!

      Vincent's castle is awesome!

      The short scene with the mice talking was hysterical!

      The zoom in to the painting after Shaggy points out that it doesn't look like Vincent is painfully obvious foreshadowing to his ancestor. Also, why do they need to foreshadow this?! Everyone has ancestors so it doesn't really seem necessary...

      Velma being super skeptical gets kinda repetitive.

      I loved Scooby as the female flight attendant and "Mr. Rogers" the captain! XD

      The line about the courtyard being open was also unnecessary foreshadowing to them needing it to get inside when they're snowed out! Why did they even need to point that out?! No one's gonna hate on the film b/c a single location is a tad bit different!

      Scooby & Shaggy doing meditation almost killed me with laughter.

      I loved the reference to the rolling demon from the theme song.

      Flim Flams song is gold.

      Fred being a cheerleader actually amused me. Fred's gone through so much in the last few DTVs so it's not shocking that he reached his breaking point. Also, this gives us an excuse to add Fred to the cheerleader's category, LOL!

      I loved Shaggy's winter hat b/c it looks like a hat I wear all the time. Not something that most people will appreciate, but it made me smile.

      The Scrappy reference was sweet, but if they're gonna acknowledge him- JUST MAKE HIM A CHARACTER!!! ARGH!!!

      The avalanche scene was cool but it went on for too long.

      The guy who ended up being a spy/figure skater was just so... random.

      Okay... The last nine minutes ruined EVERYTHING! They threw in way too much stuff! I'm not even going to waste my time typing out everything wrong with the last nine minutes b/c it was TERRIBLE! The one thing that bothered me the most is that Velma basically said that nothing in "The 13 Ghosts" happened and that they all hallucinated! You can't hype up a long-awaited sequel to a TV show and then say that everything in the TV show didn't actually happen. This bothers me SO MUCH!

      Overall I thought it was good but not great. If they had not introduced the character who ended up being the villain or had any of the backstories and cut out the spies (so essentially just the last 9 mins) and ended it w/ the 13'th ghost being trapped it could have been perfect.

      On a last note- I agree with everything that's been said about Scrappy but I also understand why he's not in it. Most of the people who like Scrappy (me included) are die-hard fans who understand him. Other people who aren't huge Scooby-Doo fans find him annoying. If you think about who's mostly buying the film- it's the parents of kids who love Scooby-Doo. Those parents aren't huge fans and most likely don't like Scrappy. I'm guessing WB knows the big fans want Scrappy back but also realize, even though it's please us, they'd end up making less money. Just thought I'd share my two cents on that since there's so much discussion. 

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    • Guys, Velma's hallucination explanation was obviously not meant to be taken literally. They show Vince and Mortipher opening the chest and catching the final ghost in the flashbacks. The writer even liked a tweet saying that her explanation wasn't true. The only thing I was confused by was whether Vince's ancestor was actually "redeemed" or not. We see his astral projection over the cliff but then Velma says she made that story up. That whole info dump felt rushed like they were on a time crunch. 

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    • Muddlemore wrote:
      Guys, Velma's hallucination explanation was obviously not meant to be taken literally. They show Vince and Mortipher opening the chest and catching the final ghost in the flashbacks. The writer even liked a tweet saying that her explanation wasn't true. The only thing I was confused by was whether Vince's ancestor was actually "redeemed" or not. We see his astral projection over the cliff but then Velma says she made that story up. That whole info dump felt rushed like they were on a time crunch. 

      Oh, well good to know it wasn't a legit explanation! Phewf! Yeah, I agree- the middle was really stretched out and the end was rushed...

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    • Muddlemore wrote: Guys, Velma's hallucination explanation was obviously not meant to be taken literally. They show Vince and Mortipher opening the chest and catching the final ghost in the flashbacks. The writer even liked a tweet saying that her explanation wasn't true. The only thing I was confused by was whether Vince's ancestor was actually "redeemed" or not. We see his astral projection over the cliff but then Velma says she made that story up. That whole info dump felt rushed like they were on a time crunch. 

      So, this justifies that the movie was a complete waste of time because we didn't get a proper conclusion. The 13th is still out there?

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    • If we put things into perspective, Mortfifer was controlling the car? I can't remember if he said that or not. They also gave Morfifer another name, but I think that may have been his surname.

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    • At the end of the day, like I said before, it doesn't matter about Scrappy or whatever, it matters about the fact the whole point of making this movie was to provide an ending. This movie's sole purpose of existing is to provide an ending, which was not given. I'm thinking all this movie did was provide a pointless twist ending with a bad guy in a mask, leaving the 13th still out there.

      I think Velma's explanation of things, just confuses the subject, as she was even a little hesitant to open the real chest. She insults the whole premise of the show and the other characters who truly went through it, who only semi try and correct Velma. I can understand why Shaggy & Scooby didn't push the truth on Velma in Rock & Roll Mystery, because that was self contained (even though that fudged things up by making WNSD references, with WNSD being KISS' first appearance), but this is a sequel to the series, so trying to undo and make light of that series defeats the purpose of the movie. Or the purpose of this movie was supposed to make the series non-canon, yet if this was the case, shouldn't it have Scooby or Shaggy wake up at the end?

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    • Have people specifically been saying death threats? Yes, death threats are wrong. If you gave a polite British letter to WB, it would make no difference anyway. It's just entertainment and they're just aiming a dart and hope it hits some people who will like it. For the people who don't like it or certain parts, then that's just part of the industry. Mostly, these people are making the movies for themselves, they were writing something they could like and hoped to attract the same like-minded individuals. If you or I have a problem with something, then sorry, it means nothing.

      (WB did listen to how badly Justice League went, so there you go, but the reality of the Scooby-Doo franchise always speaks for itself. Scooby-Doo is for kids, I get that, even though Scooby-Doo! and the Curse of the 13th Ghost was catering to the older viewers as well, but WB don't really care. They care about the money, which Scooby is always making.)

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    • Muddlemore wrote: Guys, Velma's hallucination explanation was obviously not meant to be taken literally. They show Vince and Mortipher opening the chest and catching the final ghost in the flashbacks. The writer even liked a tweet saying that her explanation wasn't true. The only thing I was confused by was whether Vince's ancestor was actually "redeemed" or not. We see his astral projection over the cliff but then Velma says she made that story up. That whole info dump felt rushed like they were on a time crunch. 

      I'm not sure liking a tweet means anything, especially in regards to someone who works in the industry. Tony Todd liked my tweet about asking him if he played a character in WNSD. I have no idea if this is in agreement or he was just amused by it. Grey also likes a lot of tweets, most I'm sure she might think the opposite or has no opinion whatsoever.

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    • Against my better judgement, I treat the film as canon. It's WB's continuation of the main timeline, whether it makes sense or not. And this film certainly does not in many ways, but neither did Scooby-Doo! Mask of the Blue Falcon or even Scooby-Doo! & Batman: The Brave and the Bold.

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    • The death threats thing was a hypothetical example. And I do like the twist of having a ghost who turns good instead of needing to be caught but yeah, it was rushed and a little too vague. My guess is that there was too much padding in the middle and they ran out of time but I do think we can assume from the context clues that not all of what Velma said was meant to be taken at face value.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:
      Against my better judgement, I treat the film as canon. It's WB's continuation of the main timeline, whether it makes sense or not. And this film certainly does not in many ways, but neither did Scooby-Doo! Mask of the Blue Falcon or even Scooby-Doo! & Batman: The Brave and the Bold.

      I totally agree. I'm gonna just pretend the movie had an entirelly different ending and that many mistakes weren't even made.

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    • Also, I don't know any other King Solomon than the one from the Bible, and this better not be a mockery.

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    • SimonTheThespian wrote:
      Okay here are all my thoughts:

      No character has ever died in a DTV! There's no way anybody is going to believe that his assistant was killed so it's made obvious from the start that he'll be the bad guy!

      The opening credits were awesome and I loved all the references.

      They agree to give up mystery's so quickly... It doesn't feel realistic for the Gang to do...

      I loved the quick reference to Daphne's "13 Ghosts" hairstyle.

      I really liked how Daphne was a stronger character in this. I like how they didn't make a big deal about her usually being a "damsel in distress" and just made her strong w/out question.

      Shaggy calling Velma "sister?!" Um...

      Ok, I love how they animated the characters mouths in this. It was kinda like anime characters when they freak out and it worked!

      Vincent's castle is awesome!

      The short scene with the mice talking was hysterical!

      The zoom in to the painting after Shaggy points out that it doesn't look like Vincent is painfully obvious foreshadowing to his ancestor. Also, why do they need to foreshadow this?! Everyone has ancestors so it doesn't really seem necessary...

      Velma being super skeptical gets kinda repetitive.

      I loved Scooby as the female flight attendant and "Mr. Rogers" the captain! XD

      The line about the courtyard being open was also unnecessary foreshadowing to them needing it to get inside when they're snowed out! Why did they even need to point that out?! No one's gonna hate on the film b/c a single location is a tad bit different!

      Scooby & Shaggy doing meditation almost killed me with laughter.

      I loved the reference to the rolling demon from the theme song.

      Flim Flams song is gold.

      Fred being a cheerleader actually amused me. Fred's gone through so much in the last few DTVs so it's not shocking that he reached his breaking point. Also, this gives us an excuse to add Fred to the cheerleader's category, LOL!

      I loved Shaggy's winter hat b/c it looks like a hat I wear all the time. Not something that most people will appreciate, but it made me smile.

      The Scrappy reference was sweet, but if they're gonna acknowledge him- JUST MAKE HIM A CHARACTER!!! ARGH!!!

      The avalanche scene was cool but it went on for too long.

      The guy who ended up being a spy/figure skater was just so... random.

      Okay... The last nine minutes ruined EVERYTHING! They threw in way too much stuff! I'm not even going to waste my time typing out everything wrong with the last nine minutes b/c it was TERRIBLE! The one thing that bothered me the most is that Velma basically said that nothing in "The 13 Ghosts" happened and that they all hallucinated! You can't hype up a long-awaited sequel to a TV show and then say that everything in the TV show didn't actually happen. This bothers me SO MUCH!

      Overall I thought it was good but not great. If they had not introduced the character who ended up being the villain or had any of the backstories and cut out the spies (so essentially just the last 9 mins) and ended it w/ the 13'th ghost being trapped it could have been perfect.

      On a last note- I agree with everything that's been said about Scrappy but I also understand why he's not in it. Most of the people who like Scrappy (me included) are die-hard fans who understand him. Other people who aren't huge Scooby-Doo fans find him annoying. If you think about who's mostly buying the film- it's the parents of kids who love Scooby-Doo. Those parents aren't huge fans and most likely don't like Scrappy. I'm guessing WB knows the big fans want Scrappy back but also realize, even though it's please us, they'd end up making less money. Just thought I'd share my two cents on that since there's so much discussion. 

      They can either make him a good guy or no longer mention him as long as they stop making him look bad. And besides, the old problems back then are history now. And there have been very few deaths on screen, Zombie Island and the Samurai Sword.

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    • The irony is just delicious.

      One day, everyone wants to see this movie and the next, they're having second thoughts about it.

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    • SonicFan wrote: The irony is just delicious.

      One day, everyone wants to see this movie and the next, they're having second thoughts about it.

      Delicious?

      Yeah, it turned out to be a disappointment for some of us. The same happened when The Amazing Spider-Man 2 or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows came out.

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    • By the way, they never showed how they got the Mystery Machine back.

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote: By the way, they never showed how they got the Mystery Machine back.

      Because they didn't. But that could be what you're getting at, if I'm mistaken.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:

      Yellowlightning1996 wrote: By the way, they never showed how they got the Mystery Machine back.

      Because they didn't. But that could be what you're getting at, if I'm mistaken.

      I mean, knowing the DTVs, they'll probably have it back in the next movie without explaining how they got it.

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    • I wished there was a post credit scene someone took the chest of demons but who knows maybe they'll Doo a sequel to the boo brothers or ghoul school?

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    • Bgunit wrote:
      I wished there was a post credit scene someone took the chest of demons but who knows maybe they'll Doo a sequel to the boo brothers or ghoul school?

      If they do, I wouldn't count on WB to make it uncanon.

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    • SimonTheThespian wrote:

      No character has ever died in a DTV! There's no way anybody is going to believe that his assistant was killed so it's made obvious from the start that he'll be the bad guy!

      That's simply just not true. We saw an entire settlement forced into gator-infested waters in Zombie Island, and then several massacres committed by Simone and Lena, in addition to their own deaths. We saw Ben and Sarah Ravencroft be banished into the book in Witch's Ghost, which was burned, meaning they could've been killed depending on the specifics of the spell.

      Samurai Sword had the Samurai's Ghost die, Frankencreepy showed the original Frankencreep being burned alive, etc. We have seen our fair share of deaths in DTV's.

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    • We'll that last one is yet confirmed to be true, and the book apparently only kept them from returning, but yes you are correct.

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote:
      We'll that last one is yet confirmed to be true, and the book apparently only kept them from returning, but yes you are correct.

      Was the book a portal to a pocket dimension, or were they spiritually bound inside the book? Because if it's the former, then Ben should still be alive and Sarah would be dead regardless due to being a ghost. But if it's the latter, burning the book would be like burning them both, destroying them. That's why it depends on the specifics of the spell for me, because the movie never really elaborated on the nature of the imprisonment.

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    • So about the garage scene, where did we land on a certain mask looking like the mask from The Scooby Project? Do people agree or disagree?

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    • Without some visual aide and comparison, I'm not sure. Nothing sprung out at me.

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    • Just watched the movie. The last 13 minutes are... Dear God, why? I would've taken out one of those avalanches near the middle for extra time, put Scrappy in (when Vincent breaks the crystal ball yelling power, because puppy power) and changed the "reveal" for something genuinely supernatural. The ending with Van Ghoul's ghost redeeming itself would've been ok as is, if Velma hadn't immediately confirmed she made it up for Vincent's benefit. And if we had actually seen Van Ghoul do more than appear as a cloud of snow. Also, the ending makes it pretty obvious that the real Asmodeus is out there, because of the fact that the one in the movie was fake, and Velma's redemption story was fake. So... This movie didn't wrap anything up. At all.

      I did like how they managed to make Flim an enjoyable, likable character, by putting him with Fred and Velma and testing out those new dynamics.

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    • I don't even believe this is the original incarnation, but a parallel universe.

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote:
      I don't even believe this is the original incarnation, but a parallel universe.

      It kind of reminded me of Superman Returns where it was half-reboot/half-continuation 

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote: I don't even believe this is the original incarnation, but a parallel universe.

      As much at that'd be nice, it IS canon...

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    • I still don't believe this is the original.

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    • I actually liked it more then most of you did. It was just the end that was bad IMO.

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    • SimonTheThespian wrote:
      I actually liked it more then most of you did. It was just the end that was bad IMO.

      You can like or dislike it, I'm sticking to my thoughts.

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote:
      SimonTheThespian wrote:
      I actually liked it more then most of you did. It was just the end that was bad IMO.
      You can like or dislike it, I'm sticking to my thoughts.

      Totally fine! I never said I loved it- just that I liked it more than most. :)

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    • I really, really liked the movie and would've accepted it even with all the continuity errors and Scrappy erasure, if it wasn't for those last 13 minutes.

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    • Well the end of this movie makes me afraid of what they will do in Return to Zombie Island now.

      Watch them make all of the Zombies, people in masks or robots.

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    • Despite the bad things, like Scrappy ignorance, unbelievably cruddy ending, with the ridiculously unfunny ice skating Interpol agent, Fred's abhorrent cheerleading, and Velma's smugness of what she said is true and made fun of everyone for believing what they did as if it was oxygen-deprived hallucinations, I did like it. It wasn't that bad considering all those cruddy additions.

      I preferred it over Scooby-Doo! WrestleMania Mystery, Scooby-Doo! Frankencreepy, and Scooby-Doo! and KISS: Rock and Roll Mystery, and it was more faithful than the epic attempt of Scooby-Doo! Moon Monster Madness, which was good on first viewing, but maybe not that great afterwards.

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    • I pretend that the bad things were replaced by the truth.

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote: I pretend that the bad things were replaced by the truth.

      Okay, I got you. I have to live with the truth that I need to do these edits.

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    • You're not the only one.

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    • After this I don't want them to make anymore sequels to Scooby-Doo shows or movies where they had real monster because I'm afraid they will just at the end of the movie say they weren't real monsters.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      I really, really liked the movie and would've accepted it even with all the continuity errors and Scrappy erasure, if it wasn't for those last 13 minutes.

      Yeah, the ending was like a fusion of the massive let down of Monster-A-Go-Go, where the monster they were... "chasing" just disappeared and the man who was suppose to be the monster was found thousands of miles away with no memory of what happend, and Avatar the Last Airbender episode: The Canyon, which an assume "I was faking" just underwhelms an interesting story concept... 

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    • Sigh... no matter how you took away from it: the "orginal" Scrappy does NOT exist anymore in any Scooby Doo medium... or at least, outside of the first movie where they based the coaster on, or the Appocalypse comics.

      Rememer: In Mystery Incorperated. Daphne and Fred acknowledge FLim-Flam, willing to talk about him with some level of affection (even if he was serving prison time according Daph, but when they see Scrappy, they turned away and wish to never speak of him ever again...

      And then again, in the OK KO episode with the Ghoul School girls... the girls refrenced "that weird guy with the Great Dane." Great Dane. As in singular... and we all know they didn't mean Scrappy. So you can take it that he was earse in that "timeline" too.

      And with THIS movie, with the "entire" gang back, they did away Scrappy pretty much completely, save for Flim-Flam asking about him, to which Velma seem to have no idea of what he was talking about. The movie took effort to bring back this series back for an ending, dispite how it was a "so bad it is good" kinda of show and give Flim-Flam a 2nd chance dispite him being more hated than Scrappy, only less infamous than the pup himself.

      This movie was pretty much THE last chance they would be OBILGATED to have Scrappy make a return... but they didn't. In fact, the one line where he is mention can easily be edited out if they want to... which is more disheartening... they only left it in to ensure the people who DO remember Scrappy is that he doesn't exist in the modern stuff now...

      Yeah... WBs may tolerate Scrappy's image nowadays, even willing to at least acknowledge the fact that he existed in the past, but that doesn't mean that they will actually USE him again. We MIGHT get to see him appear in the mainstream comics... though DC have request the fans to stop asking about him and stated he will not appear in their runs of Scooby Doo...

      Remember, Devolpment and Production Wise: Scrappy Doo was added in to boost ratings, and he started out as a great hit with the younger crowds, and was popular and help the show trend at the time. And since that can be debated to be Scrappy's one "REAL contribution" to the gang, now that he is no longer selling... whats the point to having him again?

      Yes, I know there is more to him, and dispite his faults that fanboys have hammered in about him, he does have the potential to be great assest to the show and gang... but like with this movie, they prove that they would rather NOT have him around anymore than try to make him work...

      So yeah... I know everyone here have their pick of "timelines" and whats "canon", but the writing is on the wall: Scrappy Doo will not come back into the franchise properly....

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    • They wouldn't even dare have him in the flashbacks.

      So, yeah, Flim-Flam's question of where's Scrappy, with Velma's response of "What's a Scrappy?" is essentially WB saying "Look, you fanboys, there is no Scrappy."

      I'd like to say let's just wait and see. But WB just like taking dumps on Scrappy, so who knows.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:
      They wouldn't even dare have him in the flashbacks.

      So, yeah, Flim-Flam's question of where's Scrappy, with Velma's response of "What's a Scrappy?" is essentially WB saying "Look, you fanboys, there is no Scrappy."

      I'd like to say let's just wait and see. But WB just like taking dumps on Scrappy, so who knows.

      And I just took a look at the wiki page for the DVD itself, and it HAS the first and last episodes of the orginal show where it DOES have Scrappy. So yeah, that line WAS them to flat out say that!

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:
      They wouldn't even dare have him in the flashbacks.

      So, yeah, Flim-Flam's question of where's Scrappy, with Velma's response of "What's a Scrappy?" is essentially WB saying "Look, you fanboys, there is no Scrappy."

      I'd like to say let's just wait and see. But WB just like taking dumps on Scrappy, so who knows.

      That's because they just can't move on from the problems back then, there's nothing wrong with him being in the flashbacks and it's a lie when they pretended that he didn't exist, that's just wrong. I believe he still exist and the movie isn't connected to the original show because the movies full of lies and crazy decisions on how or when it took place, because they're so selfish that they stretch the truth.

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    • I ***think*** as in probably not gonna happen, but Tim Sheridan said he needs WB's approval before taking podcasts and commenting on things like Scrappy, so I don't know if he means that decision in pretending Scrappy doesn't exist or that Scrappy might return.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:
      I ***think*** as in probably not gonna happen, but Tim Sheridan said he needs WB's approval before taking podcasts and commenting on things like Scrappy, so I don't know if he means that decision in pretending Scrappy doesn't exist or that Scrappy might return.

      I wouldn't count on that he might return, and he doesn't have too, just not to treat him like a nobody, cause even though he isn't real, it's just cruel. But I still wouldn't get my hopes up, I've pretty much lost hope for WB's.

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    • SilverZeo wrote:

      DC have request the fans to stop asking about him and stated he will not appear in their runs of Scooby Doo...

      Wait, they actually released a statement for people to stop asking for Scrappy? Also, they clearly had no problem including Scrappy in Apocalypse, so they need to get over their ego.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:

      SilverZeo wrote:

      DC have request the fans to stop asking about him and stated he will not appear in their runs of Scooby Doo...

      Wait, they actually released a statement for people to stop asking for Scrappy? Also, they clearly had no problem including Scrappy in Apocalypse, so they need to get over their ego.

      And at the same time they had it canceled, so obviously they've decided against building up Scrappy's positive reputation.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      SilverZeo wrote:

      DC have request the fans to stop asking about him and stated he will not appear in their runs of Scooby Doo...

      Wait, they actually released a statement for people to stop asking for Scrappy? Also, they clearly had no problem including Scrappy in Apocalypse, so they need to get over their ego.

      Actually, I came across this fact on Scrappy's pgae here, where it states "...when DC Comics took over and shied away from Scrappy, with even one of the newsletters telling the reader(s) not to bring him up ".

      Yeah, and so far, in the main comics, he is hardly mention of brought up. Heck, in the Scooby Team Up comics, they have really dug into the obcured and obsurd team ups in their issues, like one with a dozen mystery teams to one with Dick Dastardly... Scrappy really seems unlikely to show up in that series...

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:

      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:

      SilverZeo wrote:

      DC have request the fans to stop asking about him and stated he will not appear in their runs of Scooby Doo...

      Wait, they actually released a statement for people to stop asking for Scrappy? Also, they clearly had no problem including Scrappy in Apocalypse, so they need to get over their ego.
      And at the same time they had it canceled, so obviously they've decided against building up Scrappy's positive reputation.

      They won't let make Scrappy a good guy cause WB's won't change, and they turn down those who want them too.

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    • The first issue of DC's in 1997 said not to bring him up, which was before Scooby-Doo: The Movie, but obviously the hate was building. This is all connected to Time Warner, remember, who had Cartoon Network bring on the hate even more. On the other hand DC did Puppy Power!, which was quite good.

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    • But nothings changed,this last movie is taking it too far, it's just so cruel and wrong and they don't even try. It makes me very unhappy. I just wish I could do something to help WB's understand. But unfortunately, there don't seem to be enough people who prefer the good him.

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    • It's tough. But I think I've just gotten over it. Maybe you'll need some time to get over it, yourself. Just try and keep attentive to the other stuff.

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    • That's what I try to do all the time. And I think of alternative stories that involve the good him and other stuff that make the timeline more sense.

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote:
      But nothings changed,this last movie is taking it too far, it's just so cruel and wrong and they don't even try. It makes me very unhappy. I just wish I could do something to help WB's understand. But unfortunately, there don't seem to be enough people who prefer the good him.

      I think tha tthe only best thing we can do for Scrappy now is to just make of our fannon stories and comics about him in a postive light, and hope that inspires others, maybe even future creators, to do something postive for him...

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    • SilverZeo wrote:
      Yellowlightning1996 wrote:
      But nothings changed,this last movie is taking it too far, it's just so cruel and wrong and they don't even try. It makes me very unhappy. I just wish I could do something to help WB's understand. But unfortunately, there don't seem to be enough people who prefer the good him.
      I think tha tthe only best thing we can do for Scrappy now is to just make of our fannon stories and comics about him in a postive light, and hope that inspires others, maybe even future creators, to do something postive for him...

      I'd like to believe that, and you're right.

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    • This movie was BAAAAD!

      It had none of the spirit of the old show and instead falls onto "Everything is dumb" territory. Were they trying to make this canon to the other Scooby Doo series? Why? Why couldn't we just get a tv movie that wrapped up all the loose ends of the TV show?

      And that's ignoring the plotholes, bad characterizations, and general WTF. Hell, we didn't even get a real 13th ghost (who we see Vincent capture in the opening yet was apparently....Not real?).

      Sigh, I don't even care that much about the old series but the movie was so bad, I'm finding myself caring about it. Don't see this movie. It's not "so bad it's good", it's "so bad it's TERRIBLE".

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    • Laughingcow6 wrote:
      This movie was BAAAAD!

      It had none of the spirit of the old show and instead falls onto "Everything is dumb" territory. Were they trying to make this canon to the other Scooby Doo series? Why? Why couldn't we just get a tv movie that wrapped up all the loose ends of the TV show?

      And that's ignoring the plotholes, bad characterizations, and general WTF. Hell, we didn't even get a real 13th ghost (who we see Vincent capture in the opening yet was apparently....Not real?).

      Sigh, I don't even care that much about the old series but the movie was so bad, I'm finding myself caring about it. Don't see this movie. It's not "so bad it's good", it's "so bad it's TERRIBLE".

      You can write a review about it on Google.

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote:
      Laughingcow6 wrote:
      This movie was BAAAAD!

      It had none of the spirit of the old show and instead falls onto "Everything is dumb" territory. Were they trying to make this canon to the other Scooby Doo series? Why? Why couldn't we just get a tv movie that wrapped up all the loose ends of the TV show?

      And that's ignoring the plotholes, bad characterizations, and general WTF. Hell, we didn't even get a real 13th ghost (who we see Vincent capture in the opening yet was apparently....Not real?).

      Sigh, I don't even care that much about the old series but the movie was so bad, I'm finding myself caring about it. Don't see this movie. It's not "so bad it's good", it's "so bad it's TERRIBLE".

      You can write a review about it on Google.

      What's a Google?

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    • It's a big site for searching information about pretty much everything.

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote:
      It's a big site for searching information about pretty much everything.

      He was making the same joke they made about Scappy in the movie. But about Google.

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    • Laughingcow6 wrote:
      Yellowlightning1996 wrote: You can write a review about it on Google.
      What's a Google?

      I got that referance! XD 

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    • Where exactly on Google would one write a review?

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:
      Where exactly on Google would one write a review?

      You type in "Scooby-Doo and the curse of the 13th ghost" and look to the right and there's a spot where you can add your review. There's also a spot where google users can click on two hands pointing opposite directions showing whether they like or dislike it.

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote:
      TheAtomicLight wrote:
      Where exactly on Google would one write a review?
      You type in "Scooby-Doo and the curse of the 13th ghost" and look to the right and there's a spot where you can add your review. There's also a spot where google users can click on two hands pointing opposite directions showing whether they like or dislike it.

      Yeah, it's a new feature that they just added. It will also then appear on Google Play Movies as a review and vice versa.

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    • SimonTheThespian wrote:
      Yellowlightning1996 wrote:
      TheAtomicLight wrote:
      Where exactly on Google would one write a review?
      You type in "Scooby-Doo and the curse of the 13th ghost" and look to the right and there's a spot where you can add your review. There's also a spot where google users can click on two hands pointing opposite directions showing whether they like or dislike it.
      Yeah, it's a new feature that they just added. It will also then appear on Google Play Movies as a review and vice versa.

      That's right.

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    • Oh, okay. Yeah, and also this thread is essentially supposed to be our reviews, too. So, it goes without saying that if one of us were to like it or dislike it, both of those views are valid, because we each have our own voice. And it's also our choice to change our views. Nothing is set in stone.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:
      Oh, okay. Yeah, and also this thread is essentially supposed to be our reviews, too. So, it goes without saying that if one of us were to like it or dislike it, both of those views are valid, because we each have our own voice. And it's also our choice to change our views. Nothing is set in stone.

      Thank you for saying that. It isn't necessarily a bad or good movie- everything here is an opinion. 

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:
      Have you watched the DTV Scooby-Doo! and the Curse of the 13th Ghost?

      Share your thoughts below...

      IT WAS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Glad to see how they combined the original mystery gang with the side one that consisted of Daphne, Scooby and Shaggy.

      Sad to hear about Scrappy though, I think he's still in prison or something after one of the movies where he was mind controlling everyone.

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    • AmazingGabriel16 wrote:
      TheAtomicLight wrote:
      Have you watched the DTV Scooby-Doo! and the Curse of the 13th Ghost?

      Share your thoughts below...

      IT WAS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Glad to see how they combined the original mystery gang with the side one that consisted of Daphne, Scooby and Shaggy.

      Sad to hear about Scrappy though, I think he's still in prison or something after one of the movies where he was mind controlling everyone.

      The live action movie isn't the same timeline as the show, so the Scrappy you refer too isn't the same as the one from the show.

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    • Laughingcow6 wrote:

      And that's ignoring the plotholes, bad characterizations, and general WTF. Hell, we didn't even get a real 13th ghost (who we see Vincent capture in the opening yet was apparently....Not real?).

      The 13th Ghost from the beginning of the movie was the real Asmodeus, and he was released with the other ghosts during the original show. But the Asmodeus in the present is simply Mortifer in disguise, so Asmodeus is still out there, especially since Velma made up the story about Asamad redeeming himself by protecting Vincent.

      Also, if Asamad was the original ghost captured in the chest, why was the chest imprisoned in Solomon's Tomb, which dates it to well over 2,000 years ago? Paintings and portraits as we know them today have only been around like what, 1200 years, so how is there a portrait of Asamad and why does his garb look vaguely Middle Ages or more recent, dating him at least around 1000 years old? And Asamad was shown with the Chest of Demons before being imprisoned in it, so did he create it? Was it just an ordinary box? So many unanswered questions and inconsistences concerning this reveal.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Laughingcow6 wrote:

      And that's ignoring the plotholes, bad characterizations, and general WTF. Hell, we didn't even get a real 13th ghost (who we see Vincent capture in the opening yet was apparently....Not real?).

      The 13th Ghost from the beginning of the movie was the real Asmodeus, and he was released with the other ghosts during the original show. But the Asmodeus in the present is simply Mortifer in disguise, so Asmodeus is still out there, especially since Velma made up the story about Asamad redeeming himself by protecting Vincent.

      Also, if Asamad was the original ghost captured in the chest, why was the chest imprisoned in Solomon's Tomb, which dates it to well over 2,000 years ago? Paintings and portraits as we know them today have only been around like what, 1200 years, so how is there a portrait of Asamad and why does his garb look vaguely Middle Ages or more recent, dating him at least around 1000 years old? And Asamad was shown with the Chest of Demons before being imprisoned in it, so did he create it? Was it just an ordinary box? So many unanswered questions and inconsistences concerning this reveal.

      The only King Solomon I know is from the Bible and I'm a Christian, so I hope this movie didn't poke fun in it. Also you're right, so many "unanswered questions."

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote:

      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Laughingcow6 wrote:

      And that's ignoring the plotholes, bad characterizations, and general WTF. Hell, we didn't even get a real 13th ghost (who we see Vincent capture in the opening yet was apparently....Not real?).

      The 13th Ghost from the beginning of the movie was the real Asmodeus, and he was released with the other ghosts during the original show. But the Asmodeus in the present is simply Mortifer in disguise, so Asmodeus is still out there, especially since Velma made up the story about Asamad redeeming himself by protecting Vincent.

      Also, if Asamad was the original ghost captured in the chest, why was the chest imprisoned in Solomon's Tomb, which dates it to well over 2,000 years ago? Paintings and portraits as we know them today have only been around like what, 1200 years, so how is there a portrait of Asamad and why does his garb look vaguely Middle Ages or more recent, dating him at least around 1000 years old? And Asamad was shown with the Chest of Demons before being imprisoned in it, so did he create it? Was it just an ordinary box? So many unanswered questions and inconsistences concerning this reveal.

      The only King Solomon I know is from the Bible and I'm a Christian, so I hope this movie didn't poke fun in it. Also you're right, so many "unanswered questions."

      I doubt WB would poke fun at Christianity. They most likely didn't make the connection when the script was being written.

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Laughingcow6 wrote:

      And that's ignoring the plotholes, bad characterizations, and general WTF. Hell, we didn't even get a real 13th ghost (who we see Vincent capture in the opening yet was apparently....Not real?).

      The 13th Ghost from the beginning of the movie was the real Asmodeus, and he was released with the other ghosts during the original show. But the Asmodeus in the present is simply Mortifer in disguise, so Asmodeus is still out there, especially since Velma made up the story about Asamad redeeming himself by protecting Vincent.

      Also, if Asamad was the original ghost captured in the chest, why was the chest imprisoned in Solomon's Tomb, which dates it to well over 2,000 years ago? Paintings and portraits as we know them today have only been around like what, 1200 years, so how is there a portrait of Asamad and why does his garb look vaguely Middle Ages or more recent, dating him at least around 1000 years old? And Asamad was shown with the Chest of Demons before being imprisoned in it, so did he create it? Was it just an ordinary box? So many unanswered questions and inconsistences concerning this reveal.

      The only King Solomon I know is from the Bible and I'm a Christian, so I hope this movie didn't poke fun in it. Also you're right, so many "unanswered questions."

      It's definitely the Biblical Solomon, but that doesn't mean they're poking fun at religion. Just like them using Cleopatra's ghost as a villain didn't mean they were mocking Ancient Egyptian culture.

      Also, I vaguely remember watching or reading something years ago that claimed that Solomon's tomb was home to various imprisoned demons (Sleepy Hollow, maybe?), so they're just taking a legend and tying it into their own lore.

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    • I have brought up the fact that I hate seeing the gang get treated like dirt. I wish people could start trusting them more.

      I don't know often they've been through that but it upsets me.

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    • I find it interesting that the Sheriff is very hard on them, despite being there 50 years doing their job. They slip up once and are suddenly doing a terrible thing.

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    • The ending was very rushed. They could've gone back to the scene of the crime and proved the Sheriff wrong, but essentially the gang are setting themselves up, because they'll be breaking the law because the Sheriff told them not to (and this isn't the idiot Sheriff Bronson Stone). So what will happen? It's a shoddy open ender.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:
      I find it interesting that the Sheriff is very hard on them, despite being there 50 years doing their job. They slip up once and are suddenly doing a terrible thing.

      He let them off with a warning which is what you're suppose to do in a situation like this

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    • Muddlemore wrote:

      TheAtomicLight wrote:
      I find it interesting that the Sheriff is very hard on them, despite being there 50 years doing their job. They slip up once and are suddenly doing a terrible thing.

      He let them off with a warning which is what you're suppose to do in a situation like this

      Yes, but then it falls under the other problem, that they were going to go against that warning and hopefully come out on top, based on a "hunch" that Farmer Morgan was probably the culprit after all. It's all very far fetched. I'm not sure there's one suitable ending for any plot thread that is given in this film. Other than to make Velma feel better.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote: I find it interesting that the Sheriff is very hard on them, despite being there 50 years doing their job. They slip up once and are suddenly doing a terrible thing.

      I guess, but it hasn't ACTUALLY been 50 years in the timeline, just in how long the shows been running. But yeah- it was a pretty sloppy plot device.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote: The ending was very rushed. They could've gone back to the scene of the crime and proved the Sheriff wrong, but essentially the gang are setting themselves up, because they'll be breaking the law because the Sheriff told them not to (and this isn't the idiot Sheriff Bronson Stone). So what will happen? It's a shoddy open ender.

      Yeah... I think WB has made the assumption that kids (and the adults who watch Scooby) will only watch a movie that runs 75-85 minutes but I doubt that's the case. I'd love to watch a two hour movie that really spreads out the mystery. I mean, honestly, this story would have worked better as a miniseries. There was just so much plot potential but it fell short (literally) because of its running time and pacing.

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    • SimonTheThespian wrote:

      TheAtomicLight wrote: I find it interesting that the Sheriff is very hard on them, despite being there 50 years doing their job. They slip up once and are suddenly doing a terrible thing.

      I guess, but it hasn't ACTUALLY been 50 years in the timeline, just in how long the shows been running. But yeah- it was a pretty sloppy plot device.

      You know what I meant. ;)

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    • SimonTheThespian wrote:

      TheAtomicLight wrote: I find it interesting that the Sheriff is very hard on them, despite being there 50 years doing their job. They slip up once and are suddenly doing a terrible thing.

      I guess, but it hasn't ACTUALLY been 50 years in the timeline, just in how long the shows been running. But yeah- it was a pretty sloppy plot device.

      Either way, looking at the Garage scene, the events of SDWAY, TNSDM and WNSD have all still happened (wow, Velma's cousin Marcy is a PREDATOR, since she was 18 and going after Fred who had to be 16 going on 17 at that point).

      That's at least 91 mysteries that the gang have correctly solved, so for the Sheriff to be so stern with them over their first mistake is ridiculous.

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      Without some visual aide and comparison, I'm not sure. Nothing sprung out at me.

      Here's the mask from the original case, and here's the mask from the trailer. Keep in mind that since it is in the background, it's not given nearly enough detail, much like the Werewolf mask right next to it, so it's not identical. In fact, it could easily be the Zombie from "Which Witch is Which?" but the angular chin and the gaping mouth makes me think of the TSDP monster much more.

      Speaking of, I'm pretty sure there's two Werewolf masks. The Wolfman from A Gaggle of Galloping Ghosts in the Garage next to the mask that I think is the Scooby-Doo Project monster (it's purple and has voluminous hair), and the Werewolf from Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Werewolf outside in the yard (it's miscolored from its real green to purple, and the hair is mysteriously back, considering Shaggy shaved his head, but the face is identical).

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    • The only time the police were against the gang in standard continuity was A Scooby-Doo Valentine, which might back up an inconsistency, but this movie is more based on the original WAY series, where the sheriffs are always happy. You could take this film as being more realistic in that approach, or the fact that the police just want the real person caught, that's what they are overall concerned about, but as I said, they slip up once and the sheriff is threatening them with legal action. Like, there's zero gratitude from the hundred plus cases they've previously solved.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:
      Like, there's zero gratitude from the hundred plus cases they've previously solved.

      It's true. The gang deserves so much better than to be treated as pariahs. The fact that they've been shunned too often gets on my nerves.

      When are people gonna wake up and have some faith in the gang?

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    • SonicFan wrote:
      TheAtomicLight wrote:
      Like, there's zero gratitude from the hundred plus cases they've previously solved.
      It's true. The gang deserves so much better than to be treated as pariahs. The fact that they've been shunned too often gets on my nerves.

      When are people gonna wake up and have some faith in the gang?

      Well part of it is that, they'd have to defy authority to get a case solved, there's another reason why they're called "meddling kids". Of course what I'm talking about is in the Scooby universe.

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    • I can't wait until they're professionals who get paid. But then that would defeat the purpose of these meddling kids.

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    • The dislike of the film is both ironic and not ironic at all.

      The series, which by all accounts, never fit in with the rest of the franchise and was debatably the least favourite series of the Hanna-Barbera era. The irony of the film is that it was supposed to be the complete opposite, causing us to rave for a film which looked amazing in comparison and indirectly made us probably have more interest in the series.

      Then the film comes which has all its own problems. It's like full circle. Not ironic at all. The film turns out to be bad because it's based on a bad series. Go figure.

      (Of course that's all subjective. Opinions do vary.)

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    • SonicFan wrote:
      TheAtomicLight wrote:
      Like, there's zero gratitude from the hundred plus cases they've previously solved.
      It's true. The gang deserves so much better than to be treated as pariahs. The fact that they've been shunned too often gets on my nerves.

      When are people gonna wake up and have some faith in the gang?

      I mean, they've only been treated as pariahs in Mystery Incorporated (which is an alternate universe), in Pup (because they were like 10) and the occasional DTV like Blue Falcon or here, when they mess up. And like TheAtomicLight said, in A Scooby-Doo Valentine because they were under suspicion.

      We've seen from Happy Birthday Scooby-Doo, Moon Monster Madness, the James Gunn duology, Zombie Island and Cyber Chase that the gang are well known and beloved. In fact, if one were to put everything into one timeline, Moon Monster Madness is probably where they first became internationally famous, due to Daphne saving everyone on the spaceship and being shown going out for her driver's license (placing her age at 16).

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    • I actually think over all it was half bad, half good.

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    • Say guys for the next movie I saw they're doing a zombie island sequel

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    • Bgunit wrote:
      Say guys for the next movie I saw they're doing a zombie island sequel

      Do you have any proof?

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    • [[1]] at the end of animated direct to video movies

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    • If that's true, we can only hope it doesn't become a ripoff like this one.

      Somehow, I never knew this year's new DTV movie could turn out this bad until I read everyone's thoughts here and DeviantArt.

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    • Wow! Oh, wait, we already knew this.

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    • Bgunit wrote: Say guys for the next movie I saw they're doing a zombie island sequel

      Yeah, it's gonna be awesome!

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    • SimonTheThespian wrote:

      Bgunit wrote: Say guys for the next movie I saw they're doing a zombie island sequel

      Yeah, it's gonna be awesome!

      not so sure about that after this one...

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    • Can someone tell me where can I find what gross for those Scooby Doo direct to video movies is aka how much money they made? Only thing I can find are grosses for those live action movies. And I wanna the budget.

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    • beats me, but probably not much for this one i guess

      I expect that the live actions you can just look up online though

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    • I see, I mean if they're not making profit, they would drop down SD movies, but it seems they're making it since like 2 movies are coming out each week. What do you think budget is for these movies? I'd say 500,000-600,000.  I'd say they're getting 5-6 M within each movie or so. 

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    • true, yeah i guess, but im still wondering how hanna and barbera let evil scrapy slide with the live action

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    • Penguino! wrote:
      true, yeah i guess, but im still wondering how hanna and barbera let evil scrapy slide with the live action

      Something I wish they'd never did. And unfortunately, they won't change that because they won't change and that's why they reject those who want them too. I lost hope for WB's.

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    • Penguino! wrote: true, yeah i guess, but im still wondering how hanna and barbera let evil scrapy slide with the live action

      If you're referring to the individual people, it's because I don't think they had much say. WB was in control at this point.

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    • yeah i guess, james gunn was pretty in charge

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    • i think he really hated scrappy

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    • Penguino! wrote:
      i think he really hated scrappy

      That's no reason to lie about his absense, they need to move on from the problems in the past and get over it. But they won't because they're too scared.

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    • scared about what? enraged fans? they already have em

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    • scrappy pretty much gets three types of cameos

      1. Ingored completely

      2. made fun of

      3. mentioned but barely

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    • They're too scared to show the truth, and this abuse is getting really old, unfair and it's wrong.

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    • Penguino! wrote:
      scared about what? enraged fans? they already have em

      And they don't care.

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    • true. sad. :(

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    • Yeah... :(

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    • Only thing to do in that sense is watch it online before you decide to buy it.

      Best way to save money.

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    • I noticed it was super quick being added to YouTube. Unfortunately, not officially. I checked. I only rented it on iTunes, as I didn't want to buy it, because iTunes has become almost impossible to use. I don't like the way it works and doesn't seem to be getting any better.

      Anyway, I digress, so back more onto the topic, I'm thinking of closing this thread, because it seems to have run its course. Maybe I'll reopen it in a few months for new people who might come along.

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    • SonicFan wrote:
      Only thing to do in that sense is watch it online before you decide to buy it.

      Best way to save money.

      Yeah, but that's illegal... If no one buys Scooby films they'll stop making them.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:
      I noticed it was super quick being added to YouTube. Unfortunately, not officially. I checked. I only rented it on iTunes, as I didn't want to buy it, because iTunes has become almost impossible to use. I don't like the way it works and doesn't seem to be getting any better.

      Anyway, I digress, so back more onto the topic, I'm thinking of closing this thread, because it seems to have run its course. Maybe I'll reopen it in a few months for new people who might come along.

      That's probably for the better. Everyone keeps going in circles and most people have started to just talk about Scrappy when he was barely in the film...

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    • I appreciate it when anyone takes time out of their lives to talk about their work, but I still have to disagree with WB and Tim Sheridan's decisions what worked and didn't work, and it just proves to me that they didn't really know what they were doing. WB gave Sheridan instructions on what he could and couldn't do, which I find to be all wrong. Like the ghosts and such being real, but then WB wanted to keep it ambiguous, but they're reviving part of the franchise that was 100% non-ambiguous.

      They also wanted to shy away from Scrappy, BUT Sheridan made sure to make a joke about Scrappy. You either have Scrappy or you don't, you don't make him ambiguous just to make a BAD joke that only makes the plot more confusing than it needs to be. Velma's reaction could've been "It's a long story..." so it keeps the door open to future possibilities, because whether Sam Register likes it or not, he isn't always going to be in charge of WBA. If they had kept Sheridan on for the next film, then he could have worked more on that. Ironically, I've seen worse films in the franchise, but it's screwed up choices and inconsistencies that spoil the film. Either they need to hire people who can put together a success or sell off the franchise (and all of Hanna-Barbera) to another company who can.

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    • I agree, but the problem is, they probably mostly care about the money, and if hiring better people for the job takes up too much money, they won't hire. Also, they probably won't sell for 3 (or  more) reasons

      1. Sell to whom?

      2. Will they make more money selling than continuing to make bleh movies? (probably not they'll keep making more and more and getting more money)

      3. They don't care if they're bad or not, they don't care about us

      Just a side question:

      @ TheAtomicLight "I've seen worse films in the franchise"

      which ones? Frankencreepy?

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    • Penguino! wrote: @ TheAtomicLight "I've seen worse films in the franchise"

      which ones? Frankencreepy?

      Yes, that! And Rock and Roll Mystery, and WrestleMania Mystery.

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    • oh, I haven't seen WrestleMania yet, but im sure its not very...good

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    • Penguino! wrote:
      oh, I haven't seen WrestleMania yet, but im sure its not very...good

      Hate to disagree but I liked seeing Miz, John Cena, and A.J. Lee in animated form.

      The one thing that gets extremely stale though is the frame up. Always hated seeing our heroes take the fall.

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    • Don't get off topic.

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    • SonicFan wrote:

      Penguino! wrote:
      oh, I haven't seen WrestleMania yet, but im sure its not very...good

      Hate to disagree but I liked seeing Miz, John Cena, and A.J. Lee in animated form.

      The one thing that gets extremely stale though is the frame up. Always hated seeing our heroes take the fall.

      I thought about directing my response to you on the WrestleMania Mystery thread, but just to give a quick response here, I liked Miz. I also liked him in the sequel. But now let's get back on topic.

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    • I do enjoy that Scrappy was at least taken into consideration for the movie. But yeah, finding out that WB does in fact have a mandate against using Scrappy (and truly supernatural elements) makes me sad, and it does make the decision to cancel Apocalypse make a lot more sense, since that book heavily features both.

      Also, I am now extremely worried about Return to Zombie Island due to the "keep the supernatural ambiguous" mandate.

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    • Yeah. It's good to know that the writer wanted Scrappy and it was just the corporation that cut him out. At least some people care...

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    • Be that as it may, I wouldn't get my hopes up of Scrappy returning one day because you all demand it.

      It'll be a cold day in August before we see Scrappy make a comeback.

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    • I'm thinking about composing an email to the Warner Animation group with a link to this thread and explaining that all the biggest Scooby fans want Scrappy to reappear in some shape or form other than a lousy mention.

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    • SimonTheThespian wrote:
      Yeah. It's good to know that the writer wanted Scrappy and it was just the corporation that cut him out. At least some people care...

      WB didn't cut him out, Sheridan removed him because he couldn't find a good way to integrate him into the movie's story. Presumably, if he had found a way to make Scrappy work, WB would've accepted him like they did with Flim-Flam (whom they also requested remain out of the movie).

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      SimonTheThespian wrote:
      Yeah. It's good to know that the writer wanted Scrappy and it was just the corporation that cut him out. At least some people care...
      WB didn't cut him out, Sheridan removed him because he couldn't find a good way to integrate him into the movie's story. Presumably, if he had found a way to make Scrappy work, WB would've accepted him like they did with Flim-Flam (whom they also requested remain out of the movie).

      Oh, Ok.

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    • SimonTheThespian wrote:
      I'm thinking about composing an email to the Warner Animation group with a link to this thread and explaining that all the biggest Scooby fans want Scrappy to reappear in some shape or form other than a lousy mention.

      That's likely to be ignored, but if you want to try anyway, go for it. Or you could start a petition.

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    • Yellowlightning1996 wrote:
      SimonTheThespian wrote:
      I'm thinking about composing an email to the Warner Animation group with a link to this thread and explaining that all the biggest Scooby fans want Scrappy to reappear in some shape or form other than a lousy mention.
      That's likely to be ignored, but if you want to try anyway, go for it. Or you could start a petition.

      Well, it's worth a try!

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    • If you succeed in starting a petition, you got my signature.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:

      SimonTheThespian wrote:
      Yeah. It's good to know that the writer wanted Scrappy and it was just the corporation that cut him out. At least some people care...

      WB didn't cut him out, Sheridan removed him because he couldn't find a good way to integrate him into the movie's story. Presumably, if he had found a way to make Scrappy work, WB would've accepted him like they did with Flim-Flam (whom they also requested remain out of the movie).

      While I agree to an extent, Scrappy has a long, long history with being liked and hated by many people. Flim-Flam, while having a similar problem, only appeared during one brief year. And like I said before the film was released, only this film could really serve justice to Flim-Flam, while another could be exclusively for Scrappy. I think up on the WB lot, the executives don't have a clear view of what people actually want to see.

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    • Another problem is how Sheridan didn't list Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo with Fred, Daphne, and Velma, as continuity to the film, but this means it unnecessarily creates a new continuity where Scrappy randomly pops up in 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo, which is alluded to in the opening credits of the film, which is why Velma wouldn't know who Scrappy is. Massive justification for a massively pointless retcon of dubious reliability just to create a more conflicting timeline and bad joke. Which is why they shouldn't have had Scrappy one bit.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:

      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:


      SimonTheThespian wrote:
      Yeah. It's good to know that the writer wanted Scrappy and it was just the corporation that cut him out. At least some people care...
      WB didn't cut him out, Sheridan removed him because he couldn't find a good way to integrate him into the movie's story. Presumably, if he had found a way to make Scrappy work, WB would've accepted him like they did with Flim-Flam (whom they also requested remain out of the movie).
      While I agree to an extent, Scrappy has a long, long history with being liked and hated by many people. Flim-Flam, while having a similar problem, only appeared during one brief year. And like I said before the film was released, only this film could really serve justice to Flim-Flam, while another could be exclusively for Scrappy. I think up on the WB lot, the executives don't have a clear view of what people actually want to see.

      Why exactly do people hate Flim Flam? and did bogel and weevel have a similar problem?

      They were definitly exclusives, but no clue as to why they werent in this.

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    • Penguino! wrote:
      TheAtomicLight wrote:

      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:


      SimonTheThespian wrote:
      Yeah. It's good to know that the writer wanted Scrappy and it was just the corporation that cut him out. At least some people care...
      WB didn't cut him out, Sheridan removed him because he couldn't find a good way to integrate him into the movie's story. Presumably, if he had found a way to make Scrappy work, WB would've accepted him like they did with Flim-Flam (whom they also requested remain out of the movie).
      While I agree to an extent, Scrappy has a long, long history with being liked and hated by many people. Flim-Flam, while having a similar problem, only appeared during one brief year. And like I said before the film was released, only this film could really serve justice to Flim-Flam, while another could be exclusively for Scrappy. I think up on the WB lot, the executives don't have a clear view of what people actually want to see.
      Why exactly do people hate Flim Flam? and did bogel and weevel have a similar problem?

      They were definitly exclusives, but no clue as to why they werent in this.

      I think people found him annoying... not quite sure why though...

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    • oh, ok that makes sense...but what happened with bogel and weevel?

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    • As much as some people don't understand why there is hate toward Scrappy and Flim-Flam, I genuinely don't understand those people who are confused by the hate. It'd be like if people didn't understand why there would be disinterest in Superman, which would be because he's a giant boy scout wearing the American flag (which is actually true).

      Scrappy is annoying because of his personality, it's in his name. He's the little runt who doesn't shut up. Some people just don't like that.

      Flim-Flam is the annoying, smart ass kid who really just doesn't need to be there. I feel the film only partially redeemed that.

      Bogel and Weerd are pointless characters who were a flimsy excuses to be used as a recurring foil. Their disappearance, while not making sense, happened more than once in the TV series. The film probably could have made use of ending several themes from that series, but WB wanted everything to remain ambiguous, defeating the whole purpose of the film. Maybe if they had created the series to begin with, there would've been true closure like with SDMI, but this time, they're reviving a series that they didn't create, but felt the need to provide some closure. There is a lot of lost potential in this, so like I said before, the film is as pointless as the series was. Full circle of pointlessness.

      I've heard several people say how they just write what they like and hope it hits some people who feel the same way. But I really think that in some cases, you just write something and throw it like a dart hoping it will hit someone that will accept. I mean, Sheridan was someone who wanted to see closure, but the problem is he's a hired writer, so maybe we didn't see his version. But I just think this is a real hit or miss movie with what it was supposed to do: Provide closure to one particular premise, which it only semi did because it had to keep things ambiguous. But they seem to forget that continuity doesn't mean anything to them anyway, because the next film could easily just ignore this film altogether.

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    • I've watched the movie, and I will safely say that WB have been extremely childish regarding Scrappy Doo, and in this film, they have unfortunately (in my opinion) taken Velma's character in the wrong direction. WB seriously needs to grow up and stop pretending that Scrappy Doo doesn't exist. It is not doing them any favours. If anything, they are only alienating the older fan-base. Yes, Scrappy Doo was not popular, BUT (and this is a big but) Scrappy Doo has done more for the gang than they care to admit. He's even helped solve more mysteries than Scooby Doo's cousin Scooby Dum, and that's saying something. If anything, if that had been me writing that movie, I would have done it so that Scrappy Doo had chosen to leave Mystery Inc. (albeit on bad terms) to spend more time with Yabba Doo and Deputy Dusty. And unless WB accepts Scrappy Doo, there will be no turning back for them in terms of Scooby Doo. I will, however, give them credit for redeeming Flim Flam. If they can redeem Scrappy Doo's character, instead of being complete arseholes over him, they may get more respect from the older fanbase of Scooby Doo. I would bring back Scrappy Doo back (as a guest character), have him reconsile with the gang (though have him want revenge on the gang first), and have him leave the gang again, but this time on GOOD terms. That will make room for him to make future guest appearances.

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    • Oliverwestern wrote:
      I've watched the movie, and I will safely say that WB have been extremely childish regarding Scrappy Doo, and in this film, they have unfortunately (in my opinion) taken Velma's character in the wrong direction. WB seriously needs to grow up and stop pretending that Scrappy Doo doesn't exist. It is not doing them any favours. If anything, they are only alienating the older fan-base. Yes, Scrappy Doo was not popular, BUT (and this is a big but) Scrappy Doo has done more for the gang than they care to admit. He's even helped solve more mysteries than Scooby Doo's cousin Scooby Dum, and that's saying something. If anything, if that had been me writing that movie, I would have done it so that Scrappy Doo had chosen to leave Mystery Inc. (albeit on bad terms) to spend more time with Yabba Doo and Deputy Dusty. And unless WB accepts Scrappy Doo, there will be no turning back for them in terms of Scooby Doo. I will, however, give them credit for redeeming Flim Flam. If they can redeem Scrappy Doo's character, instead of being complete arseholes over him, they may get more respect from the older fanbase of Scooby Doo. I would bring back Scrappy Doo back (as a guest character), have him reconsile with the gang (though have him want revenge on the gang first), and have him leave the gang again, but this time on GOOD terms. That will make room for him to make future guest appearances.

      I totally agree, but unfortunately, WB's won't change that because they won't change. That's why they turn down those who want them too. I've given up hope for WB's.

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    • TheAtomicLight wrote:
      As much as some people don't understand why there is hate toward Scrappy and Flim-Flam, I genuinely don't understand those people who are confused by the hate. It'd be like if people didn't understand why there would be disinterest in Superman, which would be because he's a giant boy scout wearing the American flag (which is actually true).

      Scrappy is annoying because of his personality, it's in his name. He's the little runt who doesn't shut up. Some people just don't like that.

      Flim-Flam is the annoying, smart ass kid who really just doesn't need to be there. I feel the film only partially redeemed that.

      Bogel and Weerd are pointless characters who were a flimsy excuses to be used as a recurring foil. Their disappearance, while not making sense, happened more than once in the TV series. The film probably could have made use of ending several themes from that series, but WB wanted everything to remain ambiguous, defeating the whole purpose of the film. Maybe if they had created the series to begin with, there would've been true closure like with SDMI, but this time, they're reviving a series that they didn't create, but felt the need to provide some closure. There is a lot of lost potential in this, so like I said before, the film is as pointless as the series was. Full circle of pointlessness.

      I've heard several people say how they just write what they like and hope it hits some people who feel the same way. But I really think that in some cases, you just write something and throw it like a dart hoping it will hit someone that will accept. I mean, Sheridan was someone who wanted to see closure, but the problem is he's a hired writer, so maybe we didn't see his version. But I just think this is a real hit or miss movie with what it was supposed to do: Provide closure to one particular premise, which it only semi did because it had to keep things ambiguous. But they seem to forget that continuity doesn't mean anything to them anyway, because the next film could easily just ignore this film altogether.

      You make some really good points! I can somewhat understand why they are disliked, even though I love all of them myself.

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    • And besides, it's still wrong to treat them so badly. It's no different than real people. That's how I see it.

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    • This movie is a big joke, in fact it's not even in the original continuity and there are so many reasons why. I would treat this as a seperate timeline and the characters not the same ones from the show and makes articles for them, if you know what I mean. Atomic Light, what are your thoughts on what this and my last post?

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    • Despite the continuity inconsistencies, the movie does definitely imply that these are the main versions of the gang, especially through all of the Easter Eggs from Daphne's House. Besides, there've been other DTV's that have severely strained continuity and the timeline (Brave and the Bold, Mask of the Blue Falcon, Frankencreepy), and all of those are still considered being in the "main" timeline, so while I'm not Atomic Light, I personally see no reason why this one movie should be singled out when those other three are not.

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    • This movie is majorly messed up about the continuity, that it doesn't even take place after the original show. And the other movies are slightly different and they've yet to reveal any timeline, which they really should get straight if any of this makes sense.

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    • As I've said before, I feel all the animated movies just continue on from one another. This is a film series, it's not just random films picking up from random series, it's a film series, you can't just single out a continuity you'd prefer over the next.

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    • True as that may be, won’t they just care more about the money than anything else? By making this, they made money from people like us who bought it, but hated it because it wasn’t what it was cracked up to be.

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    • Penguino! wrote: True as that may be, won’t they just care more about the money than anything else? By making this, they made money from people like us who bought it, but hated it because it wasn’t what it was cracked up to be.

      That's the pratfalls of taking an invested interest in a a major franchise. We'll just pay for whatever we get, no matter if it's good or bad, or great or terrible. Scooby-Doo is a major money maker for WB, but their motivation is still just money. They spend about as much time as they need to, which isn't really that much, on story and what can and can't be done, and whether or not the viewer will like doesn't really mean anything. It is basically still for kids, even though they're still catering to a franchise that has been around for 50 years, with some people actually having watched it that long. They're not about to serve the public's interests, when they haven't all this time.

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    • Speaking of money making, I just noticed that Scobby soo curse of the 13th ghost is on Amazon prime. The weird thing about that is that it’s the only DTV that is free for prime members. Seems that they didn’t make too much money off this one...

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    • poke))

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    • Penguino! wrote: poke))

      Yeah, I read. I don't know what to say to this. You might be right.

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    • thx:)

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    • Penguino! wrote:
      Speaking of money making, I just noticed that Scobby soo curse of the 13th ghost is on Amazon prime. The weird thing about that is that it’s the only DTV that is free for prime members. Seems that they didn’t make too much money off this one...

      Actually, I'd say at least once a year a new DTV becomes Prime for a few months. Don't know why though...

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    • really? i just noticed now, but i couldnt find any other DTV's on amazon

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    • Penguino! wrote:
      really? i just noticed now, but i couldnt find any other DTV's on amazon

      The LEGO ones used to be on there, before that the WWE ones, Shaggy's Showdown was on there for a bit.

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    • Lego ones are stil on prime

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    • Penguino! wrote:
      Lego ones are stil on prime

      Oh, cool! :)

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    • Oh, quick question. Since Fred directly calls Flim-Flam a "member of the gang" in this movie, can we add him to the "Former Members" of Mystery Inc. alongside Scrappy?

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    • That would be possible? if the directors would make a sequel of this film. Scooby doo and the curse of 13th Ghost. 👻

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Oh, quick question. Since Fred directly calls Flim-Flam a "member of the gang" in this movie, can we add him to the "Former Members" of Mystery Inc. alongside Scrappy?

      Flim-Flam is more like Scooby Dum, so no.

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    • Who thinks Farmer Morgan was innocent? Because the Gang were thinking he wasn't.

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    • Remember Fred was whispering, "Velma! Velma! Velma!"? My brother Nitharson told me that the movie messed him up! Can't believe that Fred was at cheerleading camp!

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    • Niveithika1999 wrote:
      Remember Fred was whispering, "Velma! Velma! Velma!"? My brother Nitharson told me that the movie messed him up! Can't believe that Fred was at cheerleading camp!

      Actually, Fred being a cheerleader was one thing I actually found funny.

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    • SimonTheThespian wrote:
      Niveithika1999 wrote:
      Remember Fred was whispering, "Velma! Velma! Velma!"? My brother Nitharson told me that the movie messed him up! Can't believe that Fred was at cheerleading camp!
      Actually, Fred being a cheerleader was one thing I actually found funny.

      I found it funny too!

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