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  • TheAtomicLight
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    This has served a purpose, but now going round in circles
    17:48, June 22, 2019

    Can anyone tell me the timeline in chronological order? I mainly want just the series and movies, you can includes comics and video games if you want, but they're not neccessary.

    So yeah, I want the movies and shows in chronological order. Also, is there any show or movie that's not canon or takes place in another universe?

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    • The biggest example of another universe is Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated.

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    • I don't think there is any official chonological order but for the most part I think the shows/ movies pretty much happeneed in the porder  they were released, such as they were in High School in SDWAY, and by the time of TNSDMysteries they all had jobs, and the Zombie Island - Cyber Chase films featuered the gang also as adults with jobs returning to mystery solving.

      There are a few exceptions such as APNSD, SDMI, the Live Action Prequel movies, and the new set of films from AbraCadabra Doo onwards where the gang are back in High School (Elementary in APNSD), but for the most part I think they have stuck to a loose chronological order. 

      As for alternate timelines as mentioned above, SDMI is clearly set in a different timeline due to almost all of the gangs cases, even ones from when they were originally adults, having already happeend when they're still in High School eg. they've already met the Hex Girls and faced the Lunar Ghost, and has even been stated by the creators to be set in another timeline. Other things that could be considered to be in seperate timelines are that both Zomibie Island and Scooby-Doo The Movie (Live Action) the gang state continuously that monsters aren't real even thoguh they faced them alot during the 80's so they are most likely in seperate timelines from most of those series, aswell as the fact that both films cover the gang getting back together and so are in seperate timelines from each other.

      There are many other contradictions within the series aswell, these just seem to be some of the most notable, the franchise has been around for 46 years so there is bound to be, but hopefully this has helped you with trying to find a loose continuity between shows/movies.

      PS. as for the comics and video games, I'm not too sure but most usually seem to be based off specific versions of the characters, ie some are based on WNSD and so would be set around the same time as that series, with the gang as adults after theyve gotten back together where as some are set during SDWAY I think, although I don't think they are usually considered canon all that much.

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    • I see it as when HB merged with Time Warner and then merged with the WB it started different timelines. The WB wanted their own take on a series and made their own so I think it goes like this: 

      Movies: 

      The Mystery Begins 

      Curse of the Lake Monster 

      Scooby Doo 

      Scooby Doo Monsters Unleashed 


      HB Era: 


      A Pup Named Scooby-Doo

      Scooby-Doo, Where are You!

      The New Scooby-Doo Movies

      The Scooby-Doo Show and Scooby's All-Star Laff-A-Lympics

      Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo

      Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo shorts

      The New Scooby and Scrappy-Doo Show

      The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo 



      Then the WB years are really mixed up but I think they seperated a different timeline for each new series they made. MI is all its own and not connected, etc.  

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    • The Hannah Barbera timeline ends with 13 Ghosts. Pup, What's New and the DTVs movies are said to be in the same timeline. The live action movies, Get a Clue, Mystery Incorperated and Be Cool are also different timelines.

      Laff-A-Lympics, Scooby Goes Hollywood, the Scooby and Scrappy shorts, the Superstars 10 movies, Arabian Nights and the Johnny Bravo crossover could be non-canon.

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    • The puppet film is also debatable because it's puppets.

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    • YouDontKnowSponge wrote: Laff-A-Lympics, Scooby Goes Hollywood, the Scooby and Scrappy shorts, the Superstars 10 movies, Arabian Nights and the Johnny Bravo crossover could be non-canon.

      The comics, books, and video games go in there, too. Video games make a habit of repeating things in different situations, and none of the gang are aware of this.

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    • Anythingspossibleforapossible wrote:
      The biggest example of another universe is Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated.

      Really? I'd've thought GAC was the biggest as it's more than another universe...another plane of existence. Or are we (rightly) ignoring that series?

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    • You're right. It is in another plane of existence (you're just biased anyway (I'm joking if you couldn't tell)).

      It stands on its own outside of regular continuity completely, as does SDMI. The only reason I brought up SDMI was because I was using it as an example of a full Mystery Inc. gang show that wasn't a sequel/midquel/prequel. Also the top people working on the show didn't treat it as a sequel/midquel/prequel (except for when the new timeline occured, and Mitch Watson starting declaring it was a prequel to Where Are You!), I got the feeling that the people working on actually thought they're were doing a canon show, following directly off What's New.

      GaC uses flashbacks in one episode from a couple of the DTV movies, as if that tied them together. But the thing that I couldn't accept is, is when they said that Scooby wasn't Shag's first dog, Zoinks was. That just isn't the case in anything that's ever happened. I may have accepted the show, if it weren't for that episode. But the style and characterization changes, the whole concept of the storyline make it impossible to take seriously (not that I don't like it, because I do). It's also impossible to take seriously because it's never been spoken about again (and for the sake of this wiki, let's hope it isn't).

      In terms of canon, we're ignoring it. This is evident by the fact the gang have their own independent pages, and not just because I'm making a special history page for it, they're independent because they exist in they're own timeline. If that makes sense.

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    • Or in simpler terms, it's about as canon as their appearances in Family Guy (as in it's not).

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    • I think if you know what goes on in comics, that should help. They deal with all of that. As I've said before, it's a relatively new concept for Scooby-Doo, and therefore some of the fans who haven't had to think about that.

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    • Hey don't mean to interrupt but what exactly is a cannon and I KNOW what a timeline is 

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    • A cannon is an artillery weapon which uses explosives to launch projectiles. The Ghost of Juan Carlos used them to smuggle treasure onto his boat.

      Meanwhile canon is a little hard to explain but it essentially means official, true to the original, within the rules. Anything non-canonical is regarded as unrelated or not part of the "official" storyline, for example Scooby and Shaggy's appearances in Laff-a-Lympics are non-canonical (they aren't alluded to anywhere outside of that show). Another example is their aforementioned appearance in Family Guy (which I wasn't aware of, so thanks Possible!).

      I hope I didn't completely botch that explanation. Others could probably do better. It's one of those things you can comprehend but can't explain. Like why people love Harry Styles or Kanye West so much.

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    • Thanks sorry I spelled canon wrong I know what the first one is thanks R u B y R🐾 out!

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    • I wrote a somewhat in-depth view of some other things missing here, but I hit the create a new page button by mistake and lost it all.

      I'll just say instead, if you have a question on whether or not something is canon or simply set in another universe altogether (which bypasses whether or not it's canon), then just ask me directly.

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    • RavenclawDBS wrote: Anything non-canonical is regarded as unrelated or not part of the "official" storyline, for example Scooby and Shaggy's appearances in Laff-a-Lympics are non-canonical (they aren't alluded to anywhere outside of that show).

      Well, it is, but it's just an incredible stretch. (I had said more, but I lost it all.) We're including it in the history section of articles.

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    • The point of this is to create an authoritative, standard continuity to deflect the personal ones. Currently, whatever the continuity here is, is flawed as hell. What made you decide Mystery Inc. is its separate time-line? Just becuse you felt like it, even though the creators called it a sequel and prequel to the original series? I am not bringing personal opinions to this matter. I have worked on this continuity for over a year by watching almost all of the Scooby-Doo films and looking at them from a story perspective (not just see it as its own thing "because different animation"). This means I have undergone every single episode of the same thing over again just to note differences. And as for now, I have created the best and most scientific list of all of you. 


      This is my criteria which all of you should follow:


      1. The first series is the root of all of this and therefore the most canon of them all. Whatever contradicts it is non-canon.

      2. The oldest of the shows are canon.

      3. Much of the newer stuff is set with modern technology. Therefore, it could not have taken place back in the 1970s to 1980s.

      4. APNSD is a reboot. There is an episode of WNSD that shows a clip of Velma as a child, taken from APNSD, therefore it is part of it.

      5. ETC.

      Now, keep yourselves together and let's work on this.

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    • OneIsland wrote:
      The point of this is to create an authoritative, standard continuity to deflect the personal ones. Currently, whatever the continuity here is, is flawed as hell. What made you decide Mystery Inc. is its separate time-line? Just becuse you felt like it, even though the creators called it a sequel and prequel to the original series? I am not bringing personal opinions to this matter. I have worked on this continuity for over a year by watching almost all of the Scooby-Doo films and looking at them from a story perspective (not just see it as its own thing "because different animation"). This means I have undergone every single episode of the same thing over again just to note differences. And as for now, I have created the best and most scientific list of all of you. 

      The creators of Mystery Incorporated is considered non-canon. There was an interview after the show ended that it was supposed to be a seperate timeline. I can find it if you want me to. 

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    • So if the live action movies are in a separate continutiy, then that begs the question, what happened to non-live-action Scrappy-Doo? 

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    • Crystalwaterfall wrote: So if the live action movies are in a separate continutiy, then that begs the question, what happened to non-live-action Scrappy-Doo? 

      Something they'd rather not talk about, according to An Evening with the Scooby-Doo Gang.

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    • I just have one question that's been bothering me for a while. Why do some of the older movies like Scooby doo and the Ghoul School not have like a complete background story about how they ended up there. For example in the stated movie we know Shaggy signed a contract taking on the position of a Gym Teacher but like it just begins with them on the way to the School

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    • Right now I'm going with each show, movie and production in the franchise just being their own seperate window.

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    • Gameking3849 wrote: I just have one question that's been bothering me for a while. Why do some of the older movies like Scooby doo and the Ghoul School not have like a complete background story about how they ended up there. For example in the stated movie we know Shaggy signed a contract taking on the position of a Gym Teacher but like it just begins with them on the way to the School

      That's just how it begins. There doesn't need much exposition beyond what you just said. Although, it would be nice for a little background, there's not enough room for everything. Like in Riva Ras Regas, when Shaggy wins a competition to Vegas, but you don't see him enter, all you need is for him or someone else to just say how they got there.

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    • <divclass="quote"> </div> <divclass="quote">uhhhh...its connected to the 13 ghost of scooby-doo, they referenced flim-flam</div>

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    • <divclass="quote">Lovefiction wrote:
      I see it as when HB merged with Time Warner and then merged with the WB it started different timelines. The WB wanted their own take on a series and made their own so I think it goes like this: 

      Movies: 

      The Mystery Begins 

      Curse of the Lake Monster 

      Scooby Doo 

      Scooby Doo Monsters Unleashed 


      HB Era: 

      A Pup Named Scooby-Doo

      Scooby-Doo, Where are You!

      The New Scooby-Doo Movies

      The Scooby-Doo Show and Scooby's All-Star Laff-A-Lympics

      Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo

      Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo shorts

      The New Scooby and Scrappy-Doo Show

      The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo 



      Then the WB years are really mixed up but I think they seperated a different timeline for each new series they made. MI is all its own and not connected, etc.   </div> I agree but I say that there's a multiverse

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    • We should still know that all these reboots and rehashes are just for the brand BUT I like DooCentral's Multiverses theory, if we're talking about canon stuff.

      1) Paranormal Generic Timeline

      2) Non-Paranormal Generic Timeline

      3) Large Coolsville Timeline

      4) Small Coolsville Timeline

      5) Crystal Cove Timeline

      6) Frankencreepy Timeline

      7) Shaggy & Scooby-Doo! Get a Clue Timeline 

      8) Be Cool, Scooby-Doo Timeline

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    • The Scooby Doo universe is kind of like Rick and Morty for how I view it.

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    • That's one of the things WB's need to clear up, it's like most of the shows and movies are different incarnations.

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    • My theory states that the other Scooby-Doo timelines (except mystery incqorporated and be cool) the Gang have different parents but in mystery incorporated and be cool the have different parents wich means the others are alternate time periods. Who agrees?

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    • I don't want to give up so easily. Sometimes people have more than 2 parents. We can work with this. Perhaps some are godparents, or they are adopted by a different couple after the disappearance of the 1st pair?

      Operating under a "it's all one continuity" approach, we should have a list of things which complicate the theory (different sets of parents being one such thing, any references to IRL events decades apart without character aging possibly being another) and see if we can find plausible possible explanations which could account for them.

      If push comes to shove, we can blame things on Castiel or Vincent Van Ghoul.

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    • Tycio wrote:
      If push comes to shove, we can blame things on Castiel or Vincent Van Ghoul.

      XD

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    • I had previously been operating under the assumption that SDMI was the only confirmed non-canon timeline (cant speak for BCSD as I havent seen it). Was there confirmation from the directors of the 4 live action movies that they were part of a different timeline that Im missing?

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    • I am going to go with the recent 13th Ghost movie being published fan fiction given that it breaks so many continuity errors from the original show cause that is what the movie feels like.

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    • YouDontKnowSponge wrote: I am going to go with the recent 13th Ghost movie being published fan fiction given that it breaks so many continuity errors from the original show cause that is what the movie feels like.

      Unfortunately, it is the official continuity...

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    • SimonTheThespian wrote:

      YouDontKnowSponge wrote: I am going to go with the recent 13th Ghost movie being published fan fiction given that it breaks so many continuity errors from the original show cause that is what the movie feels like.

      Unfortunately, it is the official continuity...

      What I meant it's published fan fiction from the current creators given the fact that none of the people who are still alive that worked on the original show weren't informed about it. I feel like they should have at least got permission from Tom Ruegger given they completely ignored him.

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    • If you're referring to Curse of the 13th Ghost I don't think we would denigrate it as "fan fiction" just because none of the original creators worked on it.

      To make a comparison: with the show Doctor Who, do you think any of the people working on it now worked on the original show? Yet it's all one canonical continuity.

      What sort of errors do you think the new film has with the original series? I'm betting we can come up with explanations to make it work out if we use our imaginations.

      Since this might involve spoilers perhaps it would be good to start a new thread with a SPOILERS warning at the top for those who haven't seen the 2019 flick yet?

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    • I found the movie quite helpful to forming a canonical timeline

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    • SimonTheThespian wrote:

      YouDontKnowSponge wrote: I am going to go with the recent 13th Ghost movie being published fan fiction given that it breaks so many continuity errors from the original show cause that is what the movie feels like.

      Unfortunately, it is the official continuity...

      If by "official" you mean original, then no I seriously don't believe it and there are like dozens of reasons why.

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    • Tycio wrote:
      If you're referring to Curse of the 13th Ghost I don't think we would denigrate it as "fan fiction" just because none of the original creators worked on it.

      To make a comparison: with the show Doctor Who, do you think any of the people working on it now worked on the original show? Yet it's all one canonical continuity.

      What sort of errors do you think the new film has with the original series? I'm betting we can come up with explanations to make it work out if we use our imaginations.

      Except, 13 Ghosts was more of it's own incarnation while Doctor Who is a long running TV Series with no spin-offs or reboots to interupt continuity. The continuity errors in the 13th Ghost movie can be found in the Trivia/Goof section of the wiki page and are unfixable.

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    • Doctor Who is a long running TV Series with no spin-offs or reboots to interupt continuity.

      Doctor Who had that gap between 1989 and 2005, I realize that 16 years isn't 34 (85 to 2019) but it's still significant enough to serve as a decent example.

      the section you refer to has things which aren't necessarily errors.

      For example: Scrappy being cut out of a flash back might represent characters not remembering him, or trying not to think of him.

      Vincent missing 2 ghosts might simply be a memory problem too.

      I'm not going to go through all of them to explain stuff like that, I'd like if you could perhaps prioritize a "top three" or something which you don't think can be explained away.

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    • Tycio wrote:

      For example: Scrappy being cut out of a flash back might represent characters not remembering him, or trying not to think of him.

      Vincent missing 2 ghosts might simply be a memory problem too.

      I'm not going to go through all of them to explain stuff like that, I'd like if you could perhaps prioritize a "top three" or something which you don't think can be explained away.

      Another problem is Shaggy and Daphne were adults in the original 13 Ghosts and possibly living together, but in the recent movie the gang is stated to still be teens.

      Fred and Velma were never at summer camp. They were absent due to their jobs as revealed in the premier of New Mysteries.

      The events of 13 Ghosts were stated to happen in the Summer, but it lasted tell Winter in the original series.

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    • "Teen" and "Adult" aren't mutually exclusive, as 18-19 year olds are both. Do you recall which episode gave a specific age for Shag or Daph?

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    • Tycio wrote:
      "Teen" and "Adult" aren't mutually exclusive, as 18-19 year olds are both. Do you recall which episode gave a specific age for Shag or Daph?

      The movie states the gang are nearly 18 but "The Crazy Carnival Caper" from "The New Scooby and Scrappy-Doo Show" revealed they have already finished High School and Shaggy/Daphne were old enough to possibly be living in the same home in the original 13 Ghosts.

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    • It's possible to finish high school before you're 18, and to become emancipated and live independently. I'm wondering if they mention any exact things like "we're not teenagers"

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    • Also, Shaggy and Daphne being adults in the new scooby doo movies doesn't mnecessarily mess with the canononical timeline if you believe that every incarnation of the show may have happened before, after, or possibly even during any other incarnation, regardless of the physical release dates

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    • yeah, I never assume episodes have to happen in air order.

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    • The original Hanna-Barbera run (through 13 Ghosts) was likely to attended be set in seasonal order.

      As for the modern DTVs, those might be mixed up. The recent 13th Ghost movie is a completely new timeline and has nothing to do with the original show.

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    • That is a valid conclusion to the apparent inconsistencies it presents. For me, I believe in a complete timeline consisting of every canon sd. Because of that I am trying to find the best and most valid explanations for each inconsistency. In some cases, psychoanalysis may even prove helpful, such as Velma asking what a Scrappy is.

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    • All the shows, books and movies are not all in the same timeline. And the Curse of the 13th Ghost is a mockery of the old show that it had absolutely no connection.

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    • I agree that the movie was sadly lacking and in more than one way disappointing. Just curious though: was the multiple timelines theory ever confirmed by the producers or creators?

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    • The original continuity no and they need to take more seriously.

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    • It would seem so. I'm looking into more dtv movies that coukd help explain the timeline, like sczi. Part of the struggle is how many times the gang breaks up and gets back together, not even counting scmi.

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    • "nothing to do with" is obviously wrong. My default assumption is that all content fits into one universe until ruled out. If there's something we absolutely cannot explain at that point we barter which fits best.

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    • I love that approach! I think the 13 ghosts helps tie up loose ends with sczi, such as why the mystery machine has a wall of computers and is a stick shift

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    • They Didn't Cut Scrappy He Might Appear In The Scoob Movie

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    • What do you mean by cut? They haven't blacked him out of the franchise but they have certainly made him the punchline of many jokes

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    • And they need to stop that. I know about his unpopularity, but it's cruel and it's wrong.

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    • Yes, they need to start moving in a different direction with those jokes. They act as though they want the memory of him to die, yet constantly bringing him up insures that his memory stays alive in infamy.

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    • Exactly. But as long as WB's owns the franchise, there's no hope for a "different direction".

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    • But there is hope for working out the kinks in a canonical timeline

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    • Not as long as WB's owns the franchise. I thought the last movie would be different, but they're just selfish jerks for making Scrappy like he didn't exist.

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